THE BAGSHAW BROTHERS

during World War I

 

 

Horace Stanley ("Tim") Bagshaw   MC
1890-1927

20th Manchesters (5th City Pals)

 

 

 

Horace Stanley Bagshaw



Date

Rank or
occupation

Event

Place

Supporting documents
(TNA=The National Archives, Kew, London)

7 May 1890

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Horace born Uttoxeter,.
He was the second of four children

Uttoxeter, Staffordshire, England

 

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File written by Adobe Photoshop® 4.0

 

Horace (in skirts on the left), with baby sister Elsie and older brother Billy, c1893

 

 

 

 

19 Aug 1898

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Father, Thomas Bagshaw, died (Horace aged 8)

 

Holme Lea, Uttoxeter

 

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31 March 1901

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Billy and Horace boarding at a grammar school
Brewood School, near Wolverhampton, Staffs.

 

Brewood

1901 census

29 Feb 1904

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Sister Elsie died of diphtheria (Horace aged 14)

 

Uttoxeter

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Summer 1909

 

 

Much mention of Horace and Billy Bagshaw “coming round to play tennis” at the home of Mamie (Billy’s future wife), Daisy and Stephen Seal. 

The Seal children’s widowed mother Annie had remarried George Tipper, and Daisy is in the 1911 census as living with them at The Gables, Lower Street, Doveridge, Derby (just outside Uttoxeter, Staffs)

 

 

Doveridge, near Uttoxeter

Daisy Seal’s diary for 1909 (her granddaughter Sarah has it)

 

2 April 1911

Bank clerk

Horace living (or maybe just staying the night) with his widowed mother, just 2 months before taking ship to Australia.

 

(Mother’s household:
“Susan Bagshaw, head, age 60, private means.
1 servant.”)

 

 

Holme Lea,
Heath Road,

Uttoxeter

1911 census online

TNA

2 June 1911


Gentleman


Horace boarded RMS "Moldavia" in London.
Ship's destination; Sydney Australia.
HSB listed as : English; occupation: Gentlemen. 

 

London (UK) to Melbourne (AUS)



Phil Baker in Australia, and passenger lists.




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moldavia

 

Horace travelled to Australia on RMS Moldavia.

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22 June 1911

 


ON BOARD RMS MOLDAVIA, June 1911
After leaving Aden, the monsoon was early in evidence. The ship rolled and lurched for a time, taking water fore and aft. Two days before reaching Colombo Coronation Day [of George V, 22 June] was celebrated with great enthusiasm.
The crew were paraded forward; on the stroke of eight bells the Union Jack was unfurled, and after the National Anthem was sung, accompanied by the ship's band, the whole company gave three cheers for His Majesty the King.
During the afternoon a stage had been rigged on the forward well deck, and in the evening members of the Purser's Department gave a variety concert which was much appreciated by the passengers.
At Colombo [24 June] the stormy weather did not prevent passengers spending the day ashore, where they interested themselves in noting the decorations and in watching the naval regatta.
[Ship due to arrive in Sydney on Thursday 13 July]


Here is an account of a similar voyage taken 12 months later by one Frank Leadbetter on board a ship called Roon.

At sea, between Aden and Colombo

NLA website.
Extract from
SYDNEY MORNING HERALD
of 11 July 1911, p10, announcing imminent arrival of Moldavia, & describing this part of the voyage.

4 July
1911

 

 

Horace disembarked at Fremantle, "for Melbourne"

Fremantle, Australia

NLA website.
Extract from
THE ARGUS, Melbourne, Victoria
of Wed 5 July 1911, p13.

 

 

 

 

Horace joined the golf club in Killara.

 

Killara was. and still is, a very upmarket residential area near Sydney. There were a few boarding and guest houses in Killara, one being The Straths next door to the original clubhouse, that catered for the golfing crowd. It’s possible that Horace lived in one of these and worked in a bank in the city. The other Killara boarding house, Wychwood, was in Marian Street.

 

 

 

 

 

Kath Rieth of the Ku-ring-gai Historical Society, Killara

 

 

 

 

KillaraGC early20C.jpg

 

Killara Golf Club building 1908

 

 

Horace Bagshaw’s name was on the original honour board at Killara Golf Club that was lost when the club was destroyed by fire in August 1932.
An article in Referee of 12 April 1916, p.11 (available here: <http://www.nla.gov.au>  ) lists members and sons of members of the club who were at the front.
The first name listed was his.

 

 

Australia

Kath Rieth of the Ku-ring-gai Historical Society, Killara

 

 

1914

 

Private

 

HSBKillaraRifles.jpg

 

 

With war looming, the golf club decided to form a group to practise rifle drill,
which became known as the Killara Rifles

 

 

Australia

 

Kath Rieth of the Ku-ring-gai Historical Society, Killara

 

4 Aug 1914 

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War declared on Germany 
(World War I)

 

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1914

 

Rancher

 

Previous occupation, given on military documents.

 

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Officer file at TNA.
WO 339/26008

27 Sept 1914

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Horace resigned from Killara Rifles in order to return to England and enlist.

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Phil Baker &
Officer file at TNA.
WO 339/26008

 

 

 

Horace sailed from Sydney, Australia to Vancouver on RMS Niagara – known as “the Queen of the Pacific”– launched in 1912, and owned by the Union Steam Ship Company. The route would have been Sydney, Auckland, Fiji, Honolulu, Victoria

 

 

Canadian passenger lists online

 

21 Oct 1914

 

Horace arrives at Victoria, British Columbia, Canada.

 

Next day (22 October) he reaches Vancouver, BC, Canada.

 

 

Canadian passenger lists online

 

 

 

Presumably he takes a train from Vancouver to New York, maybe via Toronto, Montreal or Quebec.

Possibly by Canadian Pacific Railway

 

 

 

Early Nov 1914

 

 

Horace sailed, first class, from New York to Liverpool on board RMS Lusitania.  (The following year this Cunard liner was torpedoed and sunk, with the loss of more than 1100 lives.) The first-class decks were noted for their sumptuous furnishings!

 

Occupation “None”

Address “60 Alexander Road, Southport”

 

 

Passenger lists online

 

10 Nov 1914

 

 

 

Horace arrives at Liverpool from Australia, via Vancouver and New York.

 

 

19 Nov 1914

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Medical inspection

Age: 24y 6m
Height:  5ft 10.5in
Weight:  144lb
Chest:  37.75in;  Range 3in

 

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Officer file at The National Archives
WO 339/26008

30 Nov 1914

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Enlists, alongside brother Billy

Inns of Court OTC,
Berkhamsted

 

Officer file at The National Archives
WO 339/26008

 

 

BAGSHAW, Horace Stanley,
number 2220,  (Billy’s number 2218)
served in K and A Companies,
joined 30/11/14.
Commissioned into the Manchester Regiment on 3/3/15,
attained the rank of Captain,
awarded the Military Cross and was mentioned in Despatches.

Home address: Holme Lea, Alexandra Road, Southport.

 

The Inns of Court O.T.C. during the Great War, 1920 publication

edited by Lt-Col F.H.L. Errington.

 

(looked up by a member of the Great War Forum)

 

 

 


WHY TRAIN AT THE INNS OF COURT OTC?
At the time of the first World War, membership of the Inns of Court officer training corps was not restricted to barristers.

In order to get more recruits in 1895 they had widened their criteria for entry to four categories

i. members of an Inn of Court;

ii. members of the Faculty of Advocates, Edinburgh (Scottish barristers);

iii. past or present members of the universities or public schools and

iv. gentlemen who in the opinion of the commanding officer may be considered specially eligible.

 

 

 

 

3 March 1915

2nd Lieutenant


Horace posted to 20th Battalion, Manchester Regiment .  
2nd Lieutenant B Company, Commander of V (5) Platoon.

 

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Officer file at TNA.
WO 339/26008

& MReg forum

 

 

 

 

 

Early 1915

Photograph from the book "City Battalions", reproduced by kind permission of the Manchesters forum and museum

 

 

 

 

 

2nd Lieutentant Horace Bagshaw with 5 platoon, B Company, of 20th Manchesters.
He is probably the officer on the left of the two, in centre of second row.
The other is Lieutenant WC Cooper

Probably taken at Heaton Park, Manchester, during training.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Early 1915

 

Photograph from the book "City Battalions", reproduced by kind permission of the Manchesters forum and museum

 

 

Officers of 20th Battalion, Manchester Regiment.

 2nd Lt Horace Bagshaw could be centre of back row.
(Brother Billy, possibly fourth from right in back row)

Probably taken at Heaton Park, Manchester, during training.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The 20th (Service) Battalion (5th City Pals), Manchester Regiment


The 20th Battalion moved to Morecambe in April 1915
and then on to Grantham as part of the 91st Brigade, 30th Division on the 10th August 1915.

 

The battalion was taken over by the War Office in September 1915; 
it moved to Larkhill early in November 1915.

 

The battalion landed at Boulogne on the 20th December 1915. 
The 91st Brigade was transferred to the 7th Division.

 

Info from The Manchesters website

 

 

6 Apr 1915

T/2nd Lt

 

.”The Manchester Regiment, 20th Battalion (5th City)

“The undermentioned to be temporary Second Lieutenants; dated 3rd March 1915:

...William Browne Bagshaw

Horald Stanley Bagshaw ...”

 

 

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London Gazette
6 Apr 1915
page 14

 

 

 

“Manchester Regiment  20th Btn (5th City)
The christian names of temporary Second Lieutenant Horace Stanley Bagshaw are as now described and not as stated  in the Gazette of 6th Apr 1915.”

 

 

London Gazette  7 May 1915
Iss 29156

9 Nov 1915

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Arrives in France

 

FRANCE

Medal roll, TNA

25 Jan 1916

Lieutenant

 

The undermentioned temporary Second Lieutenants
to be temporary Lieutenants:
Horace S Bagshaw ......
Dated 5th March 1915, but not to carry pay or allowances prior to 1st Nov 1915.

 

London Gazette  
25 Jan 1916
Issue 29450;
p 1005

11 Apr 1916

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HSB commanding a Company.
Moved from service battalion to attending battalion.

 

FRANCE

Phil Baker

 

Apr-June 1916

 

 

Fellow officers and men were being killed and maimed all the time, in regular artillery and sniper fire during the months before the launch of the Battle of the Somme.

 

Siegfried Sassoon’s “Memoirs of an Infantry Officer” and

Bernard Adams’s “Nothing of Imortance” give vivid first-hand accounts of daily life on the Somme, in and out of the trenches at Fricourt and out of the line at Morlancourt.

Sasson and Adams were with a Welsh regiment that alternated with the 20th Manchesters and thus shared the same experiences.

 

FRANCE

 

9 June 1916

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Older brother Billy marries Mamie Seal  
(Horace not present)

 

nr Uttoxeter, Staffs

Uttoxeter Advertiser

July-Nov 1916

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Battle of the Somme

FRANCE

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Here is the Order of Battle, from the CWGC site.

The 20th Battalion Manchester Regiment (5th City Pals)
was in the:
22nd Brigade,
7th Division (Major-General HE Watts),
XV Corps (Lieutenant-General HS Horne),
British Fourth Army (General Rawlinson)

 

Here is a view of the area the 20th Manchesters were to attack that day, between Fricourt (church on the left) and Bois Français on the right. From a blog by “Old Fogey”.

 

 

1 July 1916

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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First
day of Battle of the Somme.
Zero hour for main attack was 7.30am;
Horace and Billy were in “A Company” of 20th Manchesters, part of the attack launched at 2.30pm by  22nd Brigade against the south side of the Fricourt salient.
(The 20th Manchesters were allotted the longest stretch of Front on the first day of the Somme.)

The troops left their trenches and walked calmly, with sloped arms, towards the German front line. Hundreds were mown down by machine-gun fire.
 (Brother Billy - in same battalion - was wounded in the shoulder during the attack, and sent back to England.)

Here’s a link to a BBC site where British military historian Richard Holmes shows, with animations, the progress of the Battle of the Somme from day 1.  Look at Fricourt, near the bottom left, to see what Billy and Horace were involved in.

 

near Fricourt, Somme,
FRANCE

Officer file at TNA.
WO 339/26008

 


From: Manchester Pals,  by Michael Stedman, published by Leo Cooper.

Re 1 July 1916, when 20th Manchesters were holding positions between
 the quarry, south east of Bois Français and the crossroads,
south of Fricourt, on the Mametz-Becordel road.


“...the battalion moved forward at 2.30pm. Lieutenants AGN Dixey and HS Bagshaw managed to make their way further forward, into the area of the German support trench known as The Rectangle. Realising they had no men left to command, these two officers then moved further right, and began collecting small parties of men and bombers in order to make contact with the men of C company, who were in Bois Français support trench.”

Here is a link to part of a trench map of December 1915 that shows the Fricourt crossroads, and Bois Français and the quarry (marked “Carre”) to the south of it.
This is from a large selection on the interesting Croonaert Research Services’ site.

 

Here is a link to part of the Imperial War Musuem site, on the Somme, with a picture of the devastated village of Mametz when it was captured.  You can back-track through the pictures there to see a dozen others featuring aspects of the first day on the Somme.

 

 

2 July 1916

 

T/Captain


Horace promoted in the field to Temporary Captain

 

FRANCE

Phil Baker

 

London Gazette
14 Aug 1916

 

 

 

Images from the IWM, showing various aspects of soldiers during the Battle of the Somme, are viewable here, on part of the Commonwealth War Graves Commission site.
A map here on the same site shows the front line of the Battle of the Somme, on the left, and the front line at the end of the battle on 18 November 1916. The 20th Manchesters were on the front line south of Fricourt (to the right of the town of Albert).

Here is another good map of the Somme, showing by a shaded area the amount of the advance on the first day. Billy and Horace, in the 20th Manchesters, were part of the 7th Divison, visible to the SE of Albert. Clearly their attack failed to take much ground.

This site “Sassoon on the Somme” shows present-day photographs of the terrain, with descriptions of the battle often based on the writings of Siegfried Sassoon who observed the action of the 20th Manchesters from a vantage point where he was held with the 1st Royal Welsh Fusiliers (pages 2-6 of the “military tour” are relevant).

 

 

 

 

2 Sept 1916

 

 

TRANSCRIPT OF BATTALION WAR DIARY FOR SEPT 1916

 

2 Sept 1916

At 10am on Saturday 2nd the battalion moved again to Montauban and relieved the 22nd Manchesters in the front line opposite Ginchy. During the night trenches were dug and preparations made for the attack on the village.

 

War diary for September 1916, Appendix No 2.

3 Sept 1916

 

TRANSCRIPT OF BATTALION WAR DIARY FOR SEPT 1916

 

3 Sept 1916
20th Manchesters attacked Ginchy Village, with the Royal Welch Fusiliers on their left and the Leinster Regiment on the right. The battalion advanced with A and C Companies in the front line, followed by D Company as mopping-up party and B Company as carrying party  in accordance with copy of Operation Orders No ... attached (20th Manchester Regiment Order No ...)

The village was entered and not much opposition was encountered but, the attack being entirely held up on the left,  the Royal Welch Fusiliers were unable to enter the village and in consequence our men were subjected to very heavy enfilade fire from the left flank where the enemy occupied the remains of the village and fired from loopholes. The part of the village south of the church  was held by us for some hours, after which a counter-attack, in force, was made by the enemy, on the left flank and our men were forced to retire south towards Guilllemont.
The village of Guillemont was taken without serious opposition by the troops on our right and was held. This enabled our men to remain in the southern part of Ginchy village though the north was still occupied by the enemy.  There were heavy casualties both in officers and men and the battalion was relieved by the 9th Devons at midnight on Sunday 3rd and withdrew on the morning of the 4th  to camp area near Fricourt.

 

War diary for September 1916, Appendix No 2.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

18 Nov 1916

 


Battle of the Somme comes to an end

 

 

13 Dec 1916

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Horace leaves unit abroad

FRANCE

Officer file at TNA.
WO 339/26008

14 Dec 1916

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Horace embarks at Boulogne for  Folkestone.

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Officer file at TNA.
WO 339/26008

14-24 Dec 1916

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HSB on "special leave" (? sick leave)

England

Officer file at TNA.
WO 339/26008

Dec 1916

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Horace has sciatica.
Writes to War Office requesting an extension to sick leave.

Southport

Officer file at TNA.
WO 339/26008

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War Office extends sick leave to 8 Jan 1917

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Officer file at TNA.
WO 339/26008

1 Jan 1917

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Horace's MC gazetted.
(Spelling of Bagshaw OK on  MC microfilm, unlike medal roll)

 

No citation.

 

 

 

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London Gazette 29 Dec 1916


WO389/9 microfilm, TNA
Row 12, drawer 40

6 Jan 1917

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To 3rd Reserves Battalion, Manchesters (on sick leave)

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Phil Baker

Jan 1917

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Medical records
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Unfit for duty for some time.
Sent to Southport Convalescent Hospital

Southport, Lancs

Phil Baker

2 March 1917

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Writes from Alder Hey Hospital, West Derby, Liverpool

Liverpool

Officer file at TNA.
WO 339/26008

1 May 1917

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Medical Board

"He was operated upon 16 March 1917 at Alder Hey. His condition has improved, but he has extreme tenderness over the course of the sciatic nerve. We advise his transfer for treatment at Buxton."

Was the disease contracted in the service?  YES
Was it caused by military duties?  YES
How?  COLD AND EXPOSURE

Liverpool

Officer file at TNA.
WO 339/26008

June 1917

 


Extension of leave of absence to 4 August.
To officers' convalescent hospital, Buxton, Derbyshire.

 

Derbyshire

Officer file at TNA.
WO 339/26008

18 June 1917

 

Temp  Capt HS Bagshaw MC, from a Service Btn, to be Temporary Captain (attd) 18 June 1917, with seniority 11 Apr 1916.

 

 

London Gazette  31 Aug 1917

 

 

 

5 Sept 1917

 

HSBinvestiture.jpg

 

Horace attended an investiture in London, to receive his MC
from King George V
 

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MoD Records Office, 1986/
London Gazette

 

 

The Times newspaper

6 Sept 1917

 

 

 

20th Manchesters (without Horace)
was transferred to 22nd Brigade, 7th Divison,
and in  Nov 1917 moved to  Italy.

 

 

 

January 1918

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Still unfit

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Officer file at TNA.
WO 339/26008

1 Mar 1918

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Medical Board

Fit: Category A. (click here for explanation of categories)
"The Board recommends that this officer be sent to a warmer climate."

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Officer file at TNA.
WO 339/26008

21.3.1918

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German spring offensive

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26.3.1918

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Supreme Command of Allied forces placed in hands of France’s Marshal Foch.

 

Doullens

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1917 or 1918

 

 

hsb&3officers1917 small.jpg

 

Horace Bagshaw, far left, with three fellow officers,
thought to be
2nd Lieut Brandrett, Lieut Smith and 2nd Lieut Fisher.
Taken at the 3rd Battalion base at Cleethorpes.
Soldiers of all ranks were sent here after leaving hospital etc
in the UK before returning to their own battalions.

 

 

 

Cleethorpes, Lincolnshire, England

Snapshot taken by Stanley Whitehead, c1917.


Reproduced by kind permission of The Manchester Regiment Archives, Ashton-under-Lyne

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

20th Manchesters (without Horace)
Sept 1918  Left Italy and returned to France,
joining 7th Brigade, 25th Division at Canchy.

 

 

 

8 Oct 1918

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Horace Bagshaw MC  lands in France again;
disembarks at Boulogne.

 

FRANCE

Officer file at TNA.
WO 339/26008

9 October 1918

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Joined H Depot

FRANCE

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11 Oct 1918

T/Capt


Horace sent to rejoin 20th Battalion Manchesters

FRANCE

Officer file at TNA.
WO 339/26008

13.Oct 1918

T/Capt


Horace rejoins 20th Battalion at Le Cateau, along with four other officers: Temp 2 Lt J Lea, GS Walker & A Hulme; &
2 Lt H Branham.
(Lea wounded 20 Oct; Walker & Hulme killed in action 23 Oct, the day Horace was wounded.)

 

Le Cateau, near Cambrai (Nord)
FRANCE

WO 95/2244

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TRANSCRIPT OF BATTALION WAR DIARY FOR 18-22 OCTOBER 1918, 
running up to the action in which HSB was wounded.
 
[12-17 October part of war diary was not with the rest,
so have not transcribed the whole of his period in Le Cateau area]

18 October 1918
The Battalion left Elincourt and moved via Maretz to Marois, arriving in billets about 1300 hours.

19 October 1918
The Battalion moved at 0300 hours through Honnechy-Escaufort to the ground Q.21.d  W of St Benin (Maps 57B SE and NE). At 0700 an order was received to proceed  to the ground Q.22.b.2.0. via Fassieu. The Commanding Officer and Adjutant went forward to the H.Q. Scottish Horse (50th Division) in the railway station Le Cateau to arrange details of relief. The Battalion moved off at 1610 hours via Le Quennelet Grange and relieved the Scottish Horse A and C Companies in the front line from R.1.d.0.3 to Q.6.b.6.0.   B Company and Battalion H.Q. dug into the bank on the road Q.11.d.5.0.

20 October 1918
In conjunction with the 21st Manchesters, an attack by one platoon was made from the line of the road R.1.d.0.3. to Q.6.b.6.0. under a creeping barrage. The objective was the line of the Richmont Stream from the Mill R.2.a.1.5 inclusive to Jacques Mill exclusive, as Battalion frontage. The form of the attack was three patrols, each consisting of eight All Ranks in each patrol. The 66th Division were to co-operate on the left and the 75th Brigade on the right of the 21st Manchesters. As soon as the patrols moved forward they came under very heavy fire from machine guns from the left and front,  and could make no progress after about 150 yds. The officer in charge of the patrols was wounded at the outset and many casualties occurred in the patrols. The enemy also fired on our wounded, and is known to have killed four in this way. The remnants of the patrols were able to get back at dusk, and those of our wounded still out in front were brought in. On the night of 20th October, the battle front was extended to the left by bringing in B Company to the front line and taking over from the 5th Inniskilling Fusiliers (66&Divn), the portion of the line Q.6.b.6.0 to Q.6.a.8.3. One Company of the 9th Devon Regiment was was placed under the orders of O.C. 20th Manchesters to be used in case of counter attack, and was located at Q.11.b.4.2.  One section of the M.G.C. was also allotted for defensive purposes and placed on the Northern bank of the Railway cutting.

21 October 1918
A fairly quiet day. There was a certain amount of shelling around the Railway cutting and Battalion Headquarters. B Company were withdrawn to the Railway cutting. The post at Q.6.b.7.7. remained in position.

22 October 1918
During the night 22/23 Oct the post of B Company at Q.6.b.7.7. was withdrawn to the cutting.

Signed C.R. Pilkington Lieut-Colonel
Cdg. 20th Bn Manchester Regiment
1.11.18







WarDiary
20thMR, from TNA
WO/95/2244

Oct 1918









































23 Oct 1918

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Horace wounded by shrapnel bullet in the elbow at Le Cateau.

Le Cateau
FRANCE

WO 95/2244
 

 


TRANSCRIPT OF BATTALION WAR DIARY
FOR 23 OCTOBER 1918

At 0120 hours the Battalion, together with the remainder of the 7th Brigade and with the 18th Division on the left, attacked under a barrage. The Battalion right boundary was a straight line from a point on the road 200 yards of the road junction R.l.c. 55.50 to the junction of the track and river L.31.d.2.0 thence a straight line to the road junction L.26.b.7.0.  The Battalion left boundary was K.36.d.6.0. - Moulin du Garde (inclusive) – Copse L.25.b – L.26.a (incl) -  to L.20.d.4.5. – thence 300 yds NW of  edge of Bois l’Eveque.  

The objective was the portion of the following line lying between the above-mentioned boundaries:- L.33.d.31 – Foresters House (L27.d.29) NE edge of Pommereuil – extreme west  corner of wood L.20.d.45, where touch was to be made with 18th Division. Compass bearings had been taken to assist in the maintenance of direction. 

The attack was carried out on a two Company frontage with one Company in reserve. Thirty other ranks were detailed to assist the R.E. [Royal Engineers] in bridging the Richemont Stream on the portion to be crossed by the Battalion. Owing to the darkness, mist and smoke fumes from the shells it was impossible to see the progress of the attack. The Officer i/c the bridging party reported on his return after completing the bridging, that our men were well over the stream, and had not waited for the bridges, but had pushed on, wading through the stream. For some considerable time after zero hour no authentic news could be obtained concerning the attack. Runners coming back had been knocked out, and signal communication, even by lamp, was an impossibility owing to the smoke.

Wounded coming back reported our men well ahead, (one wounded signaller at 0300 reported that his Company were entering the village of Pommereuil when he was hit). This was confirmed later by the O.C. left company returning wounded. He had been hit when with his Company at L.26.b.0.1.  There was still a considerable amount of rifle and M.G. fire from L.31.a and .c. and Garde Mill was in the hands of the enemy at 0300 hours. Therefore the reserve Company was disposed along the original Front on the Le Cateau – Bazuel Road ready to move forward and deal with pockets of the enemy who evidently remained.   When day broke, the reserve Company was ordered to work round in small parties through R.1.a  L.31.c and b to clear up pockets of the enemy, who surrendered at once on finding themselves surrounded. Battalion H.Q. moved up through Becqueriaux and L.3e2.c to Pommereuil where the two Companies had consolidated and dug in on their objective, having had severe casualties. The bulk of the casualties had occurred in the orchards about L.32.a central, the enemy being very strong in the hedges facing west.

Meanwhile the 75th and 74th Infantry Brigades had passed through and continued the attack on the 2nd and 3rd objectives.

At 1000 hours the Battalion was withdrawn into billets in Pommereuil.

 

26 Oct 1918

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Horace embarked at Le Havre;
arrived Southampton 27 Oct.
(poor signature - presumably with left hand)

 

FRANCE

Officer file at TNA.
WO 339/26008

11 Nov 1918

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ARMISTICE

 

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18 Nov 1918

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Medical board

Captain Horace Stanley Bagshaw MC, 20th Manchester Regiment
Place of injury: Le Cateau
Date: 23 Oct 1918
"He was wounded in the right arm by a shrapnel bullet, which entered just above elbow on outer side and came out behind, grooving the bone and injuring the elbow joint. The wounds are now healed, but he has very little ....... in the joint at present. No apparent damage to nerves or vessels."

 

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Officer file at TNA.
WO 339/26008

27 Jan 1919

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Handwritten letter, in very bad handwriting (presumably because of injury to right arm)

 

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Officer file at TNA.
WO 339/26008

27 Feb 1919

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Medical Board

"This officer sustained a GSW of right arm with fracture of humerus, ...... wounds healed.  The elbow joint is held at a right angle and hand slightly pronated."

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Officer file at TNA.
WO 339/26008

3 March 1919

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Handwritten letter, better handwriting

 

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Officer file at TNA.
WO 339/26008

11 July 1919

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Medical Board
at Southport Cottage Hospital, Lancs.
"Power of movement much improved. Is also stronger, but the extent of movement in shoulder and elbow is still much limited and the Board considers further treatment necessary."
"60% disablement"

 

Southport, Lancashire

Officer file at TNA.
WO 339/26008

25 Oct 1919

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Relinquished commission

..

Phil Baker

27 Oct 1919

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Handwritten letter, good handwriting.

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Officer file at TNA.
WO 339/26008

8 Nov 1919

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Granted leave to 10 November 1919.

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Officer file at TNA.
WO 339/26008

24 Nov 1919

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Medical Board

"The muscles are not wasted. There is no loss of sensation. He cannot fully flex or extend the forearm. Sapination and pronation not impaired.

 

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Officer file at TNA.
WO 339/26008

19 Dec 1919

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"No wound pension applied for"

 

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Officer file at TNA.
WO 339/26008

 

9 Feb 1920

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Letter from Horace Bagshaw to The Secretary, The War Office
:
written from Eaton Hall Military Hospital, Chester:
"I have been in hospital since 23 October 1918 suffering from gunshot wound in right arm, which is still effective.
Will you please consider this my application for wound pension."

 

 

Chester, Cheshire

 

Officer file at TNA.
WO 339/26008

24 Feb 1920

"Gazetted out of the Service"


Document from Officers' Dispersal Unit for
Horace BAGSHAWE
(seems not to have been filled in in his handwriting. Note the extra E; Horace's  medal card is filed under Bagshawe).

20th Battalion.  
Occupation before war: Rancher.
b 1881
Medical condition C1
Marital status: Single

 

..

Officer file at TNA.
WO 339/26008

2 March 1920

.


Unfit A & B permanently  (explanation here)
Fit C(i)
Fit for dispersal

 

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Officer file at TNA.
WO 339/26008

3 March 1920

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Kenneth and Billy invested with MCs.
Horace attends investiture with his mother.

 

Buckingham Palace, London

London Gazette/
family photograph
(see below)

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William, Horace and Kenneth Bagshaw with their mother

 

Before Billy and Ken’s investiture, 3 March 1920:
L to R: Billy, Horace and Kenneth Bagshaw,
with their mother Susan Bagshaw (nee Trubshaw)



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6 May 1922

 

 

 

 

 

 

Motor engineer

 

Horace’s spinster aunt, Mary Maria Bagshaw dies. (Within the same week, her brother and sister, who all live under the same roof at Heath, Uttoxeter, also die – possibly in a flu epidemic.)

 

Horace proved the Will of Mary Maria Bagshaw.

She left £1,363 9s 4d.  Did he inherit this himself?

Must look up the Will.

 

 

Uttoxeter, Staffs

 

Index to Wills and Probate

 

4 July 1922

 

 

Mother, Susan Bagshaw (née Trubshaw),
pictured above with her sons, dies.

 

 

 

Southport, Lancs

.

 

25 Aug 1923

 

"Motor body-builder’s manager"


Horace sails from Liverpool for Canada.
Last address in UK: c/o White Star Line, Liverpool
Age: 35
Occupation: Motor body-builder’s manager

 

He sailed on SS Megantic as a first-class passenger to Victoria BC.

Object in going to Canada: “To Settle”

Future occupation: “Undecided”

Money in possession belonging to passenger: “£500”

(This is about £24,000 in today’s value, 2013).

 

 

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Passenger lists, TNA
Phil Baker, in Australia

1924

 


Brother Kenneth sails from Liverpool for New York, and to join Horace in Vancouver. (ii)

Probably living

1724 Pendrill St,
Vancouver, (see death cert info)

 


(ii) Phil Baker, in Australia

 

 

 

 

 

 

mid 1920s

 

HSB & kb with friends CU.jpg

 

This looks like Horace, seated at left, in a cheery group of bright young things in Vancouver. 

Standing right is his younger brother Ken and, next to him, Ken’s vivacious bride-to-be, Margaret Mackenzie

 

 

 

 

 

 

From a CD of Margaret Thompson’s photos, sent by Cynnie.

 

1927

 

"Motor engineer" (i)

 

 

 

Works manager in a hardware business (ii)

 

 

 

 

 


Horace died 12 Dec 1927.


of artero-sclerosis (general) from which he had suffered for more than 2 years.  A contributory cause was cerebral haemorrhage during the night of 11/12 Dec; he actually died at 8.17am.

 

 

 

 

1724 Pendrill St,
Vancouver, BC Canada
(he had lived at this address for 2 years)

 

(i) Grannie Thompson

 

 

(ii) From death certificate.
Reg. No  
1927-09-381917
B.C. Archives Microfilm No  B13130
GSU Microfilm Number 1927349

 

 

 

File written by Adobe Photoshop® 4.0

 

 

 

 

Photographed by Angela Bird, on visit to Ocean View in September 2009.

Horace's grave at Ocean View cemetery, Burnaby, E Vancouver.
Not far from that of his brother, Ken.
(There is no ocean view that I could see from the cemetery, which is well inland!)

 



            

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William Browne Bagshaw (Billy)
20th Manchesters
 2/9th Manchesters


Horace Stanley Bagshaw (Tim)
20th Manchesters
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Kenneth Bagshaw (Ken)
19th Manchesters
1/7th Manchesters


Brothers' timeline


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These pages were put together in early 2008 by Angela Bird, grand-daughter of William Browne Bagshaw,
with much help from the descendents of Kenneth Bagshaw in Vancouver,
and from Phil Baker in Australia, as well as from the experts on the forum of The Manchester Regiment.