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during World War I Horace Stanley ("Tim") Bagshaw MC |
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7 May 1890 |
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Horace born Uttoxeter,. |
Uttoxeter, Staffordshire, England |
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Horace (in skirts on the left), with baby sister Elsie and older
brother Billy, c1893 |
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19 Aug 1898 |
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Holme Lea, Uttoxeter |
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31 March 1901 |
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Brewood |
1901 census |
29 Feb 1904 |
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Uttoxeter |
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Summer 1909 |
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Much mention of Horace and Billy
Bagshaw “coming round to play tennis” at the home of Mamie (Billy’s future
wife), Daisy and Stephen Seal. The Seal children’s widowed mother
Annie had remarried George Tipper, and Daisy is in the 1911 census as living
with them at The Gables, Lower Street, Doveridge, Derby (just outside
Uttoxeter, Staffs) |
Doveridge, near Uttoxeter |
Daisy Seal’s
diary for 1909 (her granddaughter Sarah has it) |
2 April 1911 |
Bank clerk |
Horace living (or maybe just
staying the night) with his widowed mother, just 2 months before taking ship
to Australia. (Mother’s household: |
Holme Lea, Uttoxeter |
1911 census online TNA |
2 June 1911 |
Gentleman |
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London (UK) to Melbourne (AUS) |
Phil Baker in
Australia, and passenger lists. |
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. Horace travelled to Australia on
RMS Moldavia. . |
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22 June 1911 |
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At sea, between Aden and Colombo |
NLA website. |
4 July |
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Horace disembarked at Fremantle,
"for Melbourne" |
Fremantle, Australia |
NLA website. |
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Horace joined the golf club in
Killara. Killara was. and still is, a very upmarket residential area near
Sydney. There were a few boarding and guest houses in Killara, one being The Straths next door to the original
clubhouse, that catered for the golfing crowd. It’s possible that Horace
lived in one of these and worked in a bank in the city. The other Killara
boarding house, Wychwood, was in Marian Street. |
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Kath Rieth of
the Ku-ring-gai Historical Society, Killara |
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Killara Golf Club building 1908 Horace Bagshaw’s name was on the original honour board at Killara Golf
Club that was lost when the club was destroyed by fire in August 1932. |
Australia |
Kath Rieth of
the Ku-ring-gai Historical Society, Killara |
1914 |
Private |
With war looming, the golf club
decided to form a group to practise rifle drill, |
Australia |
Kath Rieth of
the Ku-ring-gai Historical Society, Killara |
4 Aug
1914 |
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1914 |
Rancher |
Previous occupation, given on
military documents. |
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Officer file
at TNA. |
27 Sept 1914 |
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Phil Baker
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Horace sailed from Sydney, Australia to Vancouver on RMS Niagara – known as “the Queen of
the Pacific”– launched in 1912, and owned by the Union Steam Ship
Company. The route would have been Sydney, Auckland, Fiji, Honolulu, Victoria |
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Canadian
passenger lists online |
21 Oct 1914 |
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Horace arrives at Victoria, British Columbia, Canada. Next day (22 October) he reaches Vancouver, BC, Canada. |
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Canadian
passenger lists online |
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Presumably he takes a train from Vancouver to New York, maybe via
Toronto, Montreal or Quebec. Possibly by Canadian Pacific Railway |
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Early Nov 1914 |
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Horace sailed, first class, from New York to Liverpool on board RMS Lusitania. (The following year this Cunard liner
was torpedoed and sunk, with the loss of more than 1100 lives.) The
first-class decks were noted for their sumptuous furnishings! Occupation “None” Address “60 Alexander Road, Southport” |
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Passenger
lists online |
10 Nov 1914 |
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Horace arrives at Liverpool from Australia, via Vancouver and New
York. |
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19 Nov 1914 |
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Officer file
at The National Archives |
30 Nov 1914 |
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Enlists, alongside brother Billy |
Inns of Court OTC, |
Officer file
at The National Archives |
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BAGSHAW, Horace Stanley, Home address: Holme Lea, Alexandra
Road, Southport. |
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The Inns of
Court O.T.C. during the Great War, 1920 publication edited by
Lt-Col F.H.L. Errington. (looked up by
a member of the Great War Forum) |
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In order to get more recruits in 1895 they had widened their criteria
for entry to four categories i. members of an Inn of Court; ii. members of the Faculty of Advocates, Edinburgh (Scottish
barristers); iii. past or present members of the universities or public schools and
iv. gentlemen who in the opinion of the commanding officer may be
considered specially eligible. |
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3 March 1915 |
2nd Lieutenant |
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Officer file
at TNA. & MReg
forum |
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Early 1915 |
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Photograph
from the book "City Battalions", reproduced by kind permission of
the Manchesters forum and museum |
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2nd Lieutentant Horace Bagshaw with 5 platoon, B Company, of 20th
Manchesters. Probably taken at Heaton Park, Manchester, during training. |
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Early 1915 |
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Photograph
from the book "City Battalions", reproduced by kind permission of
the Manchesters forum and museum |
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Officers of 20th Battalion, Manchester Regiment. 2nd Lt Horace Bagshaw
could be centre of back row. Probably taken at Heaton Park, Manchester, during training. |
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The 20th (Service) Battalion (5th City Pals),
Manchester Regiment
The
battalion was taken over by the War Office in September 1915; The
battalion landed at Boulogne on the 20th December 1915. Info from The Manchesters website |
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6 Apr 1915 |
T/2nd Lt |
.”The Manchester Regiment, 20th
Battalion (5th City) “The undermentioned to be
temporary Second Lieutenants; dated 3rd March 1915: ...William Browne Bagshaw Horald Stanley Bagshaw ...” |
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London
Gazette |
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“Manchester
Regiment 20th Btn (5th City) |
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London
Gazette 7 May 1915 |
9 Nov 1915 |
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FRANCE |
Medal roll,
TNA |
25 Jan 1916 |
Lieutenant |
The undermentioned temporary
Second Lieutenants |
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London Gazette
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11 Apr 1916 |
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FRANCE |
Phil Baker |
Apr-June 1916 |
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Fellow officers and men were being killed and maimed
all the time, in regular artillery and sniper fire during the months before
the launch of the Battle of the Somme. Siegfried Sassoon’s
“Memoirs of an Infantry Officer” and Bernard Adams’s “Nothing of
Imortance” give vivid first-hand accounts of daily life on the Somme, in and
out of the trenches at Fricourt and out of the line at Morlancourt. Sasson and Adams were with
a Welsh regiment that alternated with the 20th Manchesters and
thus shared the same experiences. |
FRANCE |
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9 June 1916 |
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nr Uttoxeter, Staffs |
Uttoxeter Advertiser |
July-Nov 1916 |
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FRANCE |
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Here is the Order of
Battle, from the CWGC site. The 20th Battalion Manchester Regiment (5th City
Pals) Here
is a view of the area the 20th Manchesters were to attack that day,
between Fricourt (church on the left) and Bois Français on the right. From a blog by
“Old Fogey”. |
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1 July 1916 |
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The troops left their trenches and
walked calmly, with sloped arms, towards the German front line. Hundreds were
mown down by machine-gun fire. Here’s a
link to a BBC site where British military historian Richard Holmes shows,
with animations, the progress of the Battle of the Somme from day 1. Look at Fricourt, near the bottom
left, to see what Billy and Horace were involved in. |
near Fricourt, Somme, |
Officer file
at TNA. |
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Here is a
link to part of the Imperial War Musuem site, on the Somme, with a picture
of the devastated village of Mametz when it was captured. You can
back-track through the pictures there to see a dozen others featuring aspects
of the first day on the Somme. |
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2 July 1916 |
T/Captain |
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FRANCE |
Phil Baker London
Gazette |
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Images from the IWM, showing various aspects of
soldiers during the Battle of the Somme, are viewable here,
on part of the Commonwealth War Graves Commission site. Here is another
good map of the Somme, showing by a shaded area the amount of the advance
on the first day. Billy and Horace, in the 20th Manchesters, were part of the
7th Divison, visible to the SE of Albert. Clearly their attack failed to take
much ground. This site “Sassoon
on the Somme” shows present-day photographs of the terrain, with
descriptions of the battle often based on the writings of Siegfried Sassoon
who observed the action of the 20th Manchesters from a vantage point where he
was held with the 1st Royal Welsh Fusiliers (pages 2-6 of the “military tour”
are relevant). |
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2 Sept 1916 |
TRANSCRIPT OF
BATTALION WAR DIARY FOR SEPT 1916 2 Sept 1916 At 10am on Saturday 2nd the battalion moved again to Montauban and relieved the 22nd
Manchesters in the front line opposite Ginchy. During the night trenches were
dug and preparations made for the attack on the village. |
War diary for
September 1916, Appendix No 2. |
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3 Sept 1916 |
TRANSCRIPT OF
BATTALION WAR DIARY FOR SEPT 1916 3 Sept 1916 The village was entered and not much opposition was encountered but,
the attack being entirely held up on the left, the Royal Welch Fusiliers were unable to enter the village
and in consequence our men were subjected to very heavy enfilade fire from
the left flank where the enemy occupied the remains of the village and fired
from loopholes. The part of the village south of the church was held by us for some hours, after
which a counter-attack, in force, was made by the enemy, on the left flank
and our men were forced to retire south towards Guilllemont. |
War diary for
September 1916, Appendix No 2. |
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18 Nov 1916 |
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13 Dec 1916 |
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FRANCE |
Officer file
at TNA. |
14 Dec 1916 |
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Officer file
at TNA. |
14-24 Dec 1916 |
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England |
Officer file
at TNA. |
Dec 1916 |
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Southport |
Officer file
at TNA. |
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Officer file
at TNA. |
1 Jan 1917 |
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Horace's MC gazetted. No citation. |
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London Gazette 29 Dec 1916
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6 Jan 1917 |
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Phil Baker |
Jan 1917 |
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Southport, Lancs |
Phil Baker |
2 March 1917 |
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Liverpool |
Officer file
at TNA. |
1 May 1917 |
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Liverpool |
Officer file
at TNA. |
June 1917 |
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Derbyshire |
Officer file
at TNA. |
18 June 1917 |
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Temp Capt HS Bagshaw MC, from a Service Btn, to be Temporary
Captain (attd) 18 June 1917, with seniority 11 Apr 1916. |
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London
Gazette 31 Aug 1917 |
5 Sept 1917 |
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Horace attended an investiture in London, to receive
his MC |
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MoD Records
Office, 1986/ The Times
newspaper 6 Sept 1917 |
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20th
Manchesters (without
Horace) |
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January 1918 |
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Officer file
at TNA. |
1 Mar 1918 |
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Officer file
at TNA. |
21.3.1918 |
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26.3.1918 |
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Doullens |
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1917 or 1918 |
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Horace
Bagshaw, far left, with three fellow officers, |
Cleethorpes,
Lincolnshire, England |
Snapshot taken by Stanley Whitehead, c1917.
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20th
Manchesters
(without Horace) |
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8 Oct 1918 |
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FRANCE |
Officer file
at TNA. |
9 October 1918 |
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FRANCE |
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11 Oct 1918 |
T/Capt |
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FRANCE |
Officer file
at TNA. |
13.Oct 1918 |
T/Capt |
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Le Cateau, near Cambrai (Nord) |
WO 95/2244 |
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18 October 1918 19 October 1918 20 October 1918 21 October 1918 22 October 1918 Signed C.R. Pilkington Lieut-Colonel |
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23 Oct 1918 |
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Le Cateau |
WO 95/2244 |
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At 0120 hours the Battalion, together with the remainder of the 7th
Brigade and with the 18th Division on the left, attacked under a barrage. The
Battalion right boundary was a straight line from a point on the road 200
yards of the road junction R.l.c. 55.50 to the junction of the track and
river L.31.d.2.0 thence a straight line to the road junction
L.26.b.7.0. The Battalion left boundary was K.36.d.6.0. - Moulin du
Garde (inclusive) – Copse L.25.b – L.26.a (incl) - to L.20.d.4.5.
– thence 300 yds NW of edge of Bois l’Eveque. The objective was the portion of the following line lying between the
above-mentioned boundaries:- L.33.d.31 – Foresters House (L27.d.29) NE
edge of Pommereuil – extreme west corner of wood L.20.d.45, where
touch was to be made with 18th Division. Compass bearings had been taken to
assist in the maintenance of direction. The attack was carried out on a two Company frontage with one Company
in reserve. Thirty other ranks were detailed to assist the R.E. [Royal
Engineers] in bridging the Richemont Stream on the portion to be crossed by
the Battalion. Owing to the darkness, mist and smoke fumes from the shells it
was impossible to see the progress of the attack. The Officer i/c the
bridging party reported on his return after completing the bridging, that our
men were well over the stream, and had not waited for the bridges, but had
pushed on, wading through the stream. For some considerable time after zero
hour no authentic news could be obtained concerning the attack. Runners coming
back had been knocked out, and signal communication, even by lamp, was an
impossibility owing to the smoke. Wounded coming back reported our men well ahead, (one wounded
signaller at 0300 reported that his Company were entering the village of
Pommereuil when he was hit). This was confirmed later by the O.C. left
company returning wounded. He had been hit when with his Company at
L.26.b.0.1. There was still a considerable amount of rifle and M.G.
fire from L.31.a and .c. and Garde Mill was in the hands of the enemy at 0300
hours. Therefore the reserve Company was disposed along the original Front on
the Le Cateau – Bazuel Road ready to move forward and deal with pockets
of the enemy who evidently remained. When day broke, the reserve
Company was ordered to work round in small parties through R.1.a L.31.c
and b to clear up pockets of the enemy, who surrendered at once on finding
themselves surrounded. Battalion H.Q. moved up through Becqueriaux and
L.3e2.c to Pommereuil where the two Companies had consolidated and dug in on
their objective, having had severe casualties. The bulk of the casualties had
occurred in the orchards about L.32.a central, the enemy being very strong in
the hedges facing west. Meanwhile the 75th and 74th Infantry Brigades had passed through and
continued the attack on the 2nd and 3rd objectives. At 1000 hours the Battalion was withdrawn into billets in Pommereuil. |
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26 Oct 1918 |
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FRANCE |
Officer file
at TNA. |
11 Nov 1918 |
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18 Nov 1918 |
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Officer file
at TNA. |
27 Jan 1919 |
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Officer file
at TNA. |
27 Feb 1919 |
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Officer file
at TNA. |
3 March 1919 |
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Officer file
at TNA. |
11 July 1919 |
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Southport, Lancashire |
Officer file
at TNA. |
25 Oct 1919 |
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Phil Baker |
27 Oct 1919 |
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Officer file
at TNA. |
8 Nov 1919 |
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Officer file at
TNA. |
24 Nov 1919 |
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Officer file
at TNA. |
19 Dec 1919 |
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Officer file
at TNA. |
9 Feb 1920 |
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Chester, Cheshire |
Officer file
at TNA. |
24 Feb 1920 |
"Gazetted out of the
Service" |
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Officer file
at TNA. |
2 March 1920 |
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Officer file
at TNA. |
3 March 1920 |
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Buckingham Palace, London |
London
Gazette/ |
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. Before Billy and Ken’s
investiture, 3 March 1920:
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6 May 1922 |
Motor engineer |
Horace’s spinster aunt, Mary Maria
Bagshaw dies. (Within the same week, her brother and sister, who all live
under the same roof at Heath, Uttoxeter, also die – possibly in a flu
epidemic.) Horace proved the Will of Mary Maria Bagshaw. She left £1,363 9s 4d.
Did he inherit this himself? Must look up the Will. |
Uttoxeter, Staffs |
Index to Wills and Probate |
4 July 1922 |
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Mother, Susan Bagshaw (née
Trubshaw), |
Southport,
Lancs |
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25 Aug 1923 |
"Motor body-builder’s
manager" |
He sailed on SS Megantic as a first-class passenger to
Victoria BC. Object in going to Canada: “To
Settle” Future occupation: “Undecided” Money in possession belonging to
passenger: “£500” (This is about £24,000 in today’s value, 2013). |
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Passenger
lists, TNA |
1924 |
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Probably
living 1724 Pendrill
St, |
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mid 1920s |
This looks like Horace, seated at
left, in a cheery group of bright young things in Vancouver. Standing right is his younger
brother Ken and, next to him, Ken’s vivacious bride-to-be, Margaret Mackenzie |
From a CD of
Margaret Thompson’s photos, sent by Cynnie. |
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1927 |
"Motor engineer" (i) Works manager in a hardware
business (ii) |
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1724 Pendrill
St, |
(i) Grannie
Thompson (ii) From
death certificate. |
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Photographed
by Angela Bird, on visit to Ocean View in September 2009. |
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Horace's grave at Ocean View cemetery, Burnaby, E Vancouver. |
NAVIGATION
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These pages were put together in early 2008 by Angela Bird,
grand-daughter of William Browne Bagshaw,
with much help from the descendents of
Kenneth Bagshaw in Vancouver,
and from Phil Baker in Australia, as well as from the experts on the forum of The
Manchester Regiment.